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Great analysis! I’m curious about the disagreement with needing a pivotal act. Is this disagreement more epistemic or normative? That is to say do you think they assign a very low probability of needing a pivotal act to prevent misaligned AGI? Or do they have concerns about the potential consequences of this mentality? (people competing with each other to create powerful AGI, accidentally creating a misaligned AGI as a result, public opinion, etc.)

1Victoria Krakovna1y
I would say the primary disagreement is epistemic - I think most of us would assign a low probability to a pivotal act defined as "a discrete action by a small group of people that flips the gameboard" being necessary. We also disagree on a normative level with the pivotal act framing, e.g. for reasons described in Critch's post on this topic. 

There’s a part of your argument I am confused about. The sharp left turn is a sudden change in capabilities. Even if you can see if things are trending one way or the other, how can you see sharp left turns coming? At the end, you clarify that we can’t predict when a left turn will occur, so how do these findings pertain to them? This seems to be more of an attempt to track trends of alignment/misalignment, but I don’t see what new insights it gives us about sharp left turns specifically.

This has caused me to reconsider what intelligence is and what an AGI could be. It’s difficult to determine if this makes me more or leas optimistic about the future. A question: are humans essentially like GPT? We seem to be running simulations with the attempt to reduce predictive loss. Yes, we have agency; but this that human “agent” actually the intelligence or just generated by it?

Very insightful piece! One small quibble, you state the disclaimer that you’re not assuming only Naive Safety measures is realistic many, many times. While I think doing this might be needed when writing for a more general audience, I think for the audience of this writing, only stating it once or twice is necessary.

One possible idea I had. What if, when training Alex based on human feedback, the first team of human evaluators were intentionally picked to be less knowledgeable, more prone to manipulation, and less likely to question answers Alex gave them.... (read more)