You could design a “fake eval” and a “fake deployment”, and measure the model’s behaviour on the fake eval and the fake deployment. However, both of these distributions are still, in-fact, evaluations (in at least the sense that they must be safe). A smart model could identify both sets as evaluations – and they wouldn’t be wrong! – whilst still defecting during a true deployment.
One thing you could do is argue that the difficulty in distinguishing between your fake-eval and fake-deployment is as difficult as distinguishing between a real-eval and real-deployment. Or even better: argue that distinguishing between your fake-eval/deployment is a lot easier than distinguishing between real-eval/deployment, and then demonstrate that the model fails on the fake-eval/deployment distinction task.
Unfortunately, this does just kick a big part of the the difficulty down the line: to argue this successfully, you need to be confident in the difficulty of distinguishing real-eval/deployment. This is hard because there may exist signals that make this trivial (e.g. you forgot to test dates one year in the future in your alignment evaluations). Even then it's hard to make claims about the distribution of signals in deployment, which means that your real-eval may not be representative of large portions of these signals, and that your fake-eval/deployment split doesn't capture this difficulty either. I'd be very excited to see a strong taxonomy of eval/deployment signals, it might help make progress here.
I'm sorry for the slow response! Luckily I waited long enough that we posted the follow-up.
I definitely agree with both of your points: that you could argue that your fake eval and fake deployment are easier to distinguish, and that this is kicking the can down the rode somewhat.
Crucially, I think making a fake eval and fake deployment that captures some of the crucial strategies an AI could follow is challenging. We just released a follow-up suggesting Bounding eval awareness of ~human-level AI across the safe-to-dangerous shift using human red-teaming. There are plenty of other strategies (/signals) that are not ruled out.
I'd be very excited to see a strong taxonomy of eval/deployment signals, it might help make progress here.
I agree this would be great! Perhaps you have already seen them, but I think @VojtaKovarik et al. have released some great posts recently diving into a broader range of strategies.
Thank you for the flag! Yeah, I do think the posts Deployment Awareness Matters More Than Evaluation Awareness and If This Were a Test, How Much Would It Cost? are relevant here. [1]
To give me two cents on this:
I'd be very excited to see a strong taxonomy of eval/deployment signals, it might help make progress here.
Agreed. Though I would frame this more as "taxonomy of the most important underlying differences between evals and deployments + discussion of when these differences translate into a reliable signal". An attempt to gesture at some examples of "underlying differences":
And some examples these translate into:
With the important caveat that schemers need to worry about interpretability tools, so some of the strategies that look good on paper might be more difficult to pull off than our posts suggests. (On the other hand, my intuition is that whenever we describe a sophisticated strategy that involves a lot of reasoning, SGD might find a set of shallow heuristics that don't require any reasoning and do a good enough job of approximating the sophisticated strategy.) ↩︎
1) The safe-to-dangerous shift is a fundamental problem for eval realism
Suppose we have a capable and potentially scheming model, and before we deploy it, we want some evidence that it won’t do anything catastrophically dangerous once we deploy it. A common approach is to use black-box alignment evaluations. However, alignment evaluations are only reassuring to the extent that the model can't reliably[1] distinguish the deployment distribution from the evaluation distribution, as it is otherwise difficult to rule out the possibility of alignment faking.
There are many approaches one could use to try to make evaluations appear more realistic: you can try to create realistic environments (e.g. Petri, WebArena, OSWorld); use data from past deployments (e.g. OpenAI, SAD); and spoof tool-call responses (e.g. ToolEmu).
However, the core difference between an alignment evaluation and a real deployment, is that an alignment evaluation must be safe[2]. That is, if you want to safely evaluate an untrusted AI system, you need to limit your AI’s ability to cause harm within your evaluation environment. If you want to deploy your AI system (usefully) you need to give it at least some ability to affect the world, and potentially cause harm.
The safe-to-dangerous shift is a fundamental problem for creating realistic evaluations, and a core AI lethality.[3]
Somehow, you need to make sure a sufficiently intelligent adversary couldn’t work out if it was in evaluation or deployment based on whether the setting is safe or dangerous. The model doesn’t even need to do this reliably, it only needs to identify some dangerous settings as deployment that also are good defection opportunities.
Fortunately, AI systems aren’t arbitrarily intelligent. Perhaps we can upper-bound their evaluation awareness, and iterate to make our evaluations more realistic, until they are realistic enough…?
2) The safe-to-dangerous shift is also a problem for measuring eval awareness
Measuring an undeployed and untrusted model’s eval awareness runs into the same problem: you can’t get direct behavioural data from the model in deployment without first deploying.[4] Therefore, it's hard to build or validate an awareness measure.
Here are some approaches people have tried in the past for estimating a model’s evaluation awareness and why they aren’t robust to capable untrusted models:
For the behavioural measures of evaluation awareness above, the core problem is gathering behavioural data from deployment. Even for non-behavioural proxy measures (e.g. probes or CoT verbalisation), validating those proxies also requires data from deployment. Fundamentally, it seems hard to side-step the problem of generalising from evaluation to deployment.
3) We should expect measuring eval realism to be hard.
It shouldn’t be surprising that measuring eval realism is hard, because a robust way to measure evaluation realism would go a good way to solving inner-alignment. Optimising against a robust measure of eval realism would allow you to create hyper-realistic alignment evals. Hyper-realistic evals can be turned into a hyper-realistic alignment training environment. This could give you a signal for training any identifiably-bad actions out of your model (up to low-probability actions).
For context, we've been interested in bounding evaluation awareness as one-route to ruling out deceptive alignment in limited-capability LLMs. This post lays out what we think is one of the key issues - and hopefully we'll put out a post soon laying out what our best partial solution is.
Thanks to Marie Buhl, Geoffrey Irving and Caitlin van Bommel for helpful feedback on earlier drafts.
How “reliably” would a model need to be able to distinguish evals from deployment to be a problem? One effective strategy, described by Paul Christiano here, would be to behave unacceptably only if the current input couldn’t appear during evaluation.
In this post, we’re mostly using “safe versus dangerous” to refer specifically to a property of a deployment environment, concerning how much autonomy the agent has, and therefore how much harm it could cause if it tried. We also mostly treat this as a binary, though in practice there will be some gradation. We acknowledge this use of “safe” is not fully standard and general.
We’ve said the safe-to-dangerous shift is only a fundamental problem, because we’re not confident it’s the only one. For example, we’re also worried about ‘the problem of time’ - where an AI can look for evidence that it has already been ‘deployed’ for a while. The problem of time isn’t about a shift between the last eval example and the first deployment example – because there won’t yet be (much) evidence of deployment in the first deployment example. Instead, it’s about gradual distributional shifts during deployment (as the effects of deploying the AI dissipate).
The lack of behavioural data at deployment of course isn’t the only problem - you also have problems of elicitation and sandbagging (e.g. getting your model to genuinely try to work out if it's in an eval or deployment).
Part of our interest in bounding eval awareness is in trying to establish trustedness for some (pre-AGI) LLMs, so that they can be used in AI control protocols. Without already having trusted models, safe deployment could be as expensive as human-review of every action.