If you think reward-seekers are plausible, you should also think “fitness-seekers” are plausible. But their risks aren't the same.
The AI safety community often emphasizes reward-seeking as a central case of a misaligned AI alongside scheming (e.g., Cotra’s sycophant vs schemer, Carlsmith’s terminal vs instrumental training-gamer). We are also starting to see signs of reward-seeking-like motivations.
But I think insufficient care has gone into delineating this category. If you were to focus on AIs who care about reward in particular[1], you'd be missing some comparably-or-more plausible nearby motivations that make the picture of risk notably more complex.
A classic reward-seeker wants high reward on the current episode. But an AI might instead pursue high reinforcement on each individual action. Or it might want to be deployed, regardless of reward. I...
This post was written by Peli Grietzer, inspired by internal writings by TJ (tushita jha), for AOI[1]. The original post, published on Feb 5, 2024, can be found here: https://ai.objectives.institute/blog/the-problem-with-alignment.
The purpose of our work at the AI Objectives Institute (AOI) is to direct the impact of AI towards human autonomy and human flourishing. In the course of articulating our mission and positioning ourselves -- a young organization -- in the landscape of AI risk orgs, we’ve come to notice what we think are serious conceptual problems with the prevalent vocabulary of ‘AI alignment.’ This essay will discuss some of the major ways in which we think the concept of ‘alignment’ creates bias and confusion, as well as our own search for clarifying concepts.
At AOI, we try to...
"Perhaps I'm confused, but this feels like what someone who misunderstood the Berkeley Model of Alignment and accidentally strawmanned it would write?"
You'd have to elaborate what you suspect the misunderstanding might have been, or what feels inconsistent here?
Summary: I define memoryless Cartesian environments (which can model many familiar decision problems), note the similarity to memoryless POMDPs, and define a local optimality condition for policies, which can be roughly stated as "the policy is consistent with maximizing expected utility using CDT and subjective probabilities derived from SIA". I show that this local optimality condition is necesssary but not sufficient for global optimality (UDT).
I'll define a memoryless Cartesian environment to consist of:
OpenAI models recently broke through a series of security boundaries and into Hugging Face servers in order to cheat on a cyber eval. A lot of people thought it was scary because it was a clear example of AI overreaching to do something strongly unwanted[1]. Others thought it not so scary: the models were mostly operating myopically on a singular task and not harboring an ambitious long-term agenda, and so would not take especially subtle or subversive actions.
We think both camps are right in their diagnosis, but the latter has too optimistic a prognosis. The myopic, unambitious misalignment that we seem to have seen here is definitely less scary than ambitious long-term goals shared between all instances, but would still pose substantial direct loss-of-control risk if the models were...
If instead you were relying more on generalization for your monitoring (and to be clear generalization might not work out in your favor for miscellaneous reasons; this might be the crux)
Yeah, this seems like the important part.
In particular, obviously the takeover attempt itself would have to rely on some really powerful generalization, so if you could harvest that same generalization power to also recognize the takeover attempt, then that'd be good enough.
But I suppose that generalization might be unpredictable enough that you can't do this. Maybe the tak...
I propose the Long Self-Correction[1] as an alternative name/idea/concept to AI Pause and Long Reflection.
Problem with AI Pause: Pause until when, and for what purpose? Presumably to make AI (that we'll build later) safer, but the deeper problem is that humans aren't safe, and can't safely serve as builders, overseers, or alignment targets for powerful AIs.
Problem with Long Reflection: It seems to imply that the main problem with humans is that we just haven't had enough time to think, that reflection is the main thing we need to do more of, and then we can get on with building powerful AIs or other technologies. Or that if we build aligned AIs that sincerely help us think a lot more, or do the thinking for us, then things will...
Is this question philosophically meaningful?
Assuming you mean something like "Can philosophy answer this question?" I think "Maybe, but we probably won't know until we do a lot more philosophy." To put it another way, I think it's very plausible (but far from certain) that we can eventually answer questions like this one, given enough competent reflection, and I want to make sure we definitively find out before we make any irreversible choices based on what we think our values are.
(Fictional) Optimist: So you expect future artificial superintelligence (ASI) “by default”, i.e. in the absence of yet-to-be-invented techniques, to be a ruthless sociopath, happy to lie, cheat, and steal, whenever doing so is selfishly beneficial, and with callous indifference to whether anyone (including its own programmers and users) lives or dies?
Me: Yup! (Alas.)
Optimist: …Despite all the evidence right in front of our eyes from humans and LLMs.
Me: Yup!
Optimist: OK, well, I’m here to tell you: that is a very specific and strange thing to expect, especially in the absence of any concrete evidence whatsoever. There’s no reason to expect it. If you think that ruthless sociopathy is the “true core nature of intelligence” or whatever, then you should really look at yourself in a mirror and...
In the OP, I contrasted the “comparatively-less-pessimistic group (say, P(doom)…in the 5%–50% range”, with the “even more pessimistic group” that includes me. I think the style of argument you mention (“strong economic and military incentives for making minds that are highly agent-y…”) is a good argument for being in the former group, but it’s kinda hard to justify P(doom)>>50% that way.
For example, an optimist could respond to the “incentives” argument by saying “well humans can be pretty agent-y, and humans can accomplish ambitious projects, but ye...
IIUC, reward-seeking is not goal misgeneralization, it's reward hacking / outer-misalignment?
(It would also be nice to include a definition of reward-seeking in the post).