Peter Hozák

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“Can’t we test whether the code works without knowing anything about programming?”

Knowing what to test to reliably decrease uncertainty about "whether the code works" includes knowing "a fair bit" about software engineering.

I agree with the distinction that being a programmer is not the only way how to know about programming, many hiring managers are not programmers themselves, they just have to know a fair bit about software engineering.