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Four ways learning Econ makes people dumber re: future AI
David Stinson20d20

I'd say this is a partial misunderstanding, because the difference between final and intermediate consumption is about intention, rather than the type of goods. 

Or to be more concrete, this is where I get off the train.

Would the economy collapse if all humans put their spending cash towards ambitious projects like rocket ships, instead of movies and fast cars? No, of course not! Right?

It depends entirely on whether these endeavors were originally thought to be profitable. If you were spending your own money, with no thought of financial returns, then it would be fine. If all the major companies on the stock market announced today that they were devoting all of their funds to rocket ships, on the other hand, the result would be easily called a economic collapse, as people (banks, bondholders, etc.) recalibrate their balance sheets to the updated profitability expectations.

If AI is directing that spending, rather than people, on the other hand, the distinction would not be between alignment and misalignment, but rather with something more akin to 'analignment,' where AIs could have spending preferences completely disconnected from those of their human owners. Otherwise, their financial results would simply translate to the financial conditions of their owners.

The reason why intention is relevant to models which might appear at first to be entirely mechanistic has to do with emergent properties. While on the one hand this is just an accounting question, you would also hope that in your model, GDP at time t bears some sort of relationship with t+1 (or whatever alternative measure of economic activity you prefer). Ultimately, any model of reality has to start at some level of analysis. This can be subjective, and I would potentially be open to a case that AI might be a more suitable level of analysis than the individual human, but if you are making that case then I would like to see the case the independence of AI spending decisions. If that turns out to be a difficult argument to make, then it's a sign that it may be worth keeping conventional economics as the most efficient/convenient/productive modelling approach.

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Four ways learning Econ makes people dumber re: future AI
David Stinson21d20

If a human population gradually grows (say, by birth or immigration), then demand for pretty much every product increases, and production of pretty much every product increases, and pretty much every product becomes less expensive via experience curves / economies of scale / R&D.

Agree?

QUESTION: How is that fact compatible with Say’s Law?

If you write down an answer, then I will take the text of your answer but replace the word “humans” with “AGIs” everywhere, and bam, that’s basically my answer to your question!  :)  (after some minor additional tweaks.)

Okay. Humans are capable of final consumption (i.e. with a reward function that does not involve making more money later).

I'm interested to see how an AI would do that because it is the crux of a lot of downstream processes.

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