This is a linkpost for https://youtu.be/yo4QvDn-vsU

New experiment: Recording myself real-time as I do mechanistic interpretability research! I try to answer the question of what happens if you train a toy transformer without positional embeddings on the task of "predict the previous token" - turns out that a two layer model can rederive them! You can watch me do it here, and you can follow along with my code here. This uses a transformer mechanistic interpretability library I'm writing called EasyTransformer, and this was a good excuse to test it out and create a demo!

This is an experiment in recording and publishing myself doing "warts and all" research - figuring out how to train the model and operationalising an experiment (including 15 mins debugging loss spikes...), real-time coding and tensor fuckery, and using my go-to toolkit. My hope is to give a flavour of what actual research can look like - how long do things actually take, how often do things go wrong, what is my thought process and what am I keeping in my head as I go, what being confused looks like, and how I try to make progress. I'd love to hear whether you found this useful, and whether I should bother making a second half!

Though I don't want to overstate this - this was still a small, self-contained toy question that I chose for being a good example task to record (and I wouldn't have published it if it was TOO much of a mess).

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I'd love to hear whether you found this useful, and whether I should bother making a second half!

We had 5 people watch it here, and we would like a part 2:)

We had a lot of fun pausing the video and making forward predictions, and we couldn't think of any feedback for you in general. 

Thanks for the feedback! I'm impressed you had 5 people interested! What context was this in? (Ie, what do you mean by "here"?)

guessing this wouldn't work without causal attention masking

Yeah, I think that's purely symmetric.

This was really really helpful! I learned a lot about how to think through experiment design, watching you do it, and I found some possible-mistakes I've been making while designing my own experiments! 

My only criticism: When copilot auto-fills in details, it would be helpful if you'd explain what it did and why its what you wanted it to do, like how you do with your own code.

Awesome, really appreciate the feedback! And makes sense re copilot, I'll keep that in mind in future videos :) (maybe should just turn it off?)

I'd love to hear more re possible-mistakes if you're down to share!

The main big one was that when I was making experiments, I did not have in mind a particular theory about how the network was doing a particular capability. I just messed around with matrices, and graphed a bunch of stuff, and multiplied a bunch of weights by a bunch of other weights. Occasionally, I'd get interesting looking pictures, but I had no clue what to do with those pictures, or followup questions I could ask, and I think it's because I didn't have an explicit model of what I think it should be doing, and so couldn't update my picture of the mechanisms the network was using off the data I gathered about the network's internals.

Makes sense, thanks! Fwiw, I think the correct takeaway is a mix of "try to form hypotheses about what's going on" and "it's much, much easier when you have at least some surface area on what's going on". There are definitely problems where you don't really know going in (eg, I did not expect modular addition to be being solved with trig identities!), and there's also the trap of being overconfident in an incorrect view. But I think the mode of iteratively making and testing hypotheses is pretty good.

An alternate, valid but harder, mode is to first do some exploratory analysis where you just hit the problem with a standard toolkit and see what sticks, without any real hypothesis. And then use this raw data to go off and try to form a hypothesis about what's going on, and what to do next to test/try to break it.

What do you mean by “surface area”?

I use surface area as a fuzzy intuition around "having some model of what's going on, and understanding of what's happening in a problem/phenomena". Which doesn't necessarily looking like a full understanding, but looks like having a list in my head of confusing phenomena, somewhat useful ideas, and hooks into what I could investigate next.

I find this model useful both to recognise 'do I have any surface area on this problem' and to motivate next steps by 'what could give me more surface area on this problem' even if it's not a perfectly robust way.