I have previously expressed skepticism about modeling time horizons as superexponential (absent feedback loops from AI speeding up AI R&D). In particular, I didn't buy AI Futures Project's argument that there are "meta-skills" that let humans do projects of arbitrary length.
Spelled out in more detail, my skepticism was coming from something like the following argument:
However, qualitatively, it appears that the (human) time horizon of AI in formal mathematics has progressed faster than exponentially recently. This view has been expressed by Noam Brown:
When the models figured out how to do GSM8K, it would take a human mathematician about five seconds to do a GSM8K problem. This is grade school math, grades K-8. Then the next year, they were able to do the MATH benchmark problems. These would take an expert human mathematician maybe a minute to do.
Then you get to AIME. This is the qualifier for the USA Mathematics Olympiad team. It would take a good human mathematician probably 10 minutes to do, and the models were able to do that a year later. So every year, you’re seeing this 10x increase in the tasks they’re able to do, in terms of how long it would take a human mathematician to do it. Then it was very sensible that a year later we get to IMO gold, because that’s 100 minutes. That’s about how long it takes a human mathematician to do an IMO problem.
Just projecting outwards, I was like, “Okay, how long would it take a person to solve something like a Millennium Prize Problem?” I don’t have a good sense, but if we are following this trend line of 10x every year, we go from IMO gold, which is taking an hour and a half, to next year, 15 hours. That should not be enough to solve a Millennium Prize Problem. So I was like, “I don’t think we’re going to get it in 2026, probably not in 2027, maybe in 2028.” So it did happen a lot faster than I expected.
I would be very interested to know to what extent a more careful, quantitative assessment supports this apparent trend break. If there is strong support, it would be a substantial evidence against my argument above (especially the step labeled as a speculative assumption), which would change how quickly I expect AI to surpass humans in other fields.
I would get an LLM to conduct this study, but it involves some subtlety and careful judgment. In particular, I would want to put some thought into the following issues:
Even a first-pass attempt at this would be very interesting to me. The progress of AI in mathematics over the last few months has surprised a lot of people (even among those who were paying close attention), including Noam (as expressed above) and myself (as recently as last year, I was predicting it would take at least a couple of years to get to where we are today). So I think it would be valuable to have a better understanding of what has actually happened, and what the takeaways should be for other forecasts.
I'm curious if you think there is a length of time X such that math problems that take professional humans longer than X to solve tend to be math problems that human professionals are better at than any current AI system.
Is this supposed to be a different question than something like the 50% reliability moving-baseliner time horizon, which is currently around 1,000 hours? It is obviously much more convenient to ask an AI to solve a problem and get the answer back in a few minutes or even an hour than to wait 1,000 hours for an unassisted human to solve the problem, so if that counts as "better" then X is much larger than 1,000 hours.
Uh, no, I think I was just asking about that. I forget the exact definition. I agree that "better" here should mean something like "more likely to succeed at the task vs. an AI system given similar amounts of time and budget."
I think Alexander's analysis (from which I'm deriving the 1,000 hours number, after tweaking the AIME time horizon a bit) assumes some kind of "standard" inference budget that's maybe growing a little over time, but not as quickly as the time horizon. So if you allow the AI to spend as long as the humans, the break-even point is probably a lot longer than this. @Alexander Barry can probably help you figure this out better than I can.
Thanks. Yeah, @Alexander Barry shouldn't the time and money budget given to the AIs scale at the same speed as the time and money budget given to the humans? Tasks that take humans longer, take humans longer, and also cost more to hire humans to do.
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/G7MmNkYADKkmCiumj/response-to-titotal-s-critique-of-our-ai-2027-timelines#Superexponential_in_effective_compute_time_horizon_growth contains a much more developed version of our argument for superexponentiality than the one you linked to!
Thank you! I still feel confused about the abstract considerations here, and given that we now have a rich, technical domain where AI is superhuman, I would put a lot of weight on whether math looks superexponential. Obviously the qualitative evidence is already an update in favor of your priors over mine.
I recently gave this talk at the Safety-Guaranteed LLMs workshop:
The talk is about ARC's work on low probability estimation (LPE), covering: